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Obesity explained.

  • 18th Jul, 2009 at 2:59 AM
legiron2
No, I haven't been out drinking tonight. I'm in drinking instead and wading through statistical analyses. I want this stuff complete before I head off for a bit of a holiday in Wales followed by another bit in Ayr. I have family in both places - it's a holiday on the cheap. My favourite kind. Unless it's completed before I go, I can't send the bills, and coming home to a couple of cheques sounds good to me.

Anyway, stats is excruciatingly dull so I'm taking a break between sets, and musing on tonight's dinner. I had little time to make anything so I just called in at the chip shop.

There is a saying that you should never shop for food when you're hungry. It's true. If I go to the supermarket hungry I buy far more than I need and some of it ends up binned because it's non-freezable and therefore rotten before I get to it.

The saying applies to fast food too. I'm no big fan of hamburgers or McNuggets or Kentucky Fried Chicken-like-thing, but I do like the old fish and chips. The trouble is, whenever you go into one of these places you are, by default, hungry. If you weren't, you wouldn't go in, would you? So you are food shopping when you're hungry and that is a bad idea.

Restaurants are different. You order and you wait and make small talk with whatever bit of totty you have lured into your (rarely strong enough) web. You don't go in and demand food NOW because you're hungry NOW and want it NOW. Besides, restaurants cost money so you're a bit restrained by that. Also, you're in the place more to impress the totty than to load up your guts. The food is secondary.

With fast food, including chip shops, the food is relatively cheap and it's the only reason to go in there. So a bit extra is not a big problem. Tonight I ordered the jumbo haddock with chips and since I was ravenous, I added a side order of onion rings for £1.40.

I couldn't finish it all. A big chunk of it went into the bin.

Now we have to consider a couple of other aspects. Chucking out about £2 of food annoyed me but it won't break my finances. I'm not rich, but a loss of about £2-worth is just annoying. If I was jobless, it would be seriously painful. I remember when £2 lasted for days so it still stings a bit to lose it, but it won't really hurt me now.

The other aspect is the British insistence on 'finish what's on your plate'. Often followed by 'Starving children in Africa would love to have that much food'. My mother made me into a butterball when I was eleven. It faded, fortunately. Tip to any eleven year olds reading - the obvious answer, 'Starving kids in Africa wouldn't eat this crap' is just going to be very painful. Bite your lip, hold your nose, and wait until you're old enough to get out of there.

I spent a bit of time in China. Weird place, great people. They are fantastically and blatantly racist because if you don't look Chinese they can charge what they like. My guide had to queue twice for tickets to the Forbidden City, once for himself as Chinese and again to get a ticket for me, the Roundeye. Mine cost five times as much as his. It was still desperately cheap for the whole day it took to see not even half of it. It wasn't insulting, it was just interesting.

Anyway, I lost a lot of weight in China. I had no gut problems at all, in fact I've never been so free of gut problems even after being carried back to the hotel from a meeting with Chinese farmers after a drinking session involving something that tasted like aftershave. It wasn't an infection, it wasn't the food (which was all fried), it wasn't that there wasn't enough because there always was, it was all in the manner of presentation.

You have nothing on your plate. All the food is on a big rotating disk in the middle of the table. You spin it and take what you feel like onto the empty little plate in front of you. You never load that little plate, it's one bit at a time. When you've had enough, you stop. The last round of any Chinese meal is soup. When that arrives, you know it's over.

There is no 'plate that must be cleared' at any time. The Chinese had no problem with obesity until they met fast food, where you buy a big load of food and have to eat all of it yourself. Their normal way of doing things was a communal meal where you ate what you wanted and stopped when you had enough. Even in restaurants.

Fast food, per se, isn't what causes obesity. It's a combination of 'eat what you have in front of you / do you know what that cost?' / the guilt trip of 'the starving cheeldren' elsewhere that's causing the proliferation of the blubber.

And, of course, shopping for food when we're hungry. Which is all we ever do where the fast food is concerned.

Solution? I don't have one. I would oppose any attempt to shut down chip shops or any fast food place, including the ones I never visit. It's not the food that's the problem. It's the people and their attitudes to it.

If you don't want to get fat, stop eating when you've had enough no matter how much is left on your plate. Bin it, and next time make a bit less.

If you don't want your kids to get fat, don't force them to clear their plate and stop the Biafran guilt trips. Bin it, and next time make a bit less.

Not being fat is easy, really. Don't eat so much and you lose weight. Forget about diets that cost money. Losing weight should involve eating less and therefore cost less. Ignore those who tell you it's not your fault. They are doing you no favours. They want you to stay fat because then you're one of their pets. Get out of there!

Eat whatever you want. If you're overweight and concerned about it, just don't eat so much of it.

It's a simple equation. Those who claim it's complicated are just after your money.

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[info]speakingunknown wrote:
18th Jul, 2009 03:18 (UTC)
oh wow...i think this will actually help me...i hope....xD
[info]freedom2choose wrote:
18th Jul, 2009 08:10 (UTC)
Obesity
Totally agree about over eating, my Mrs. cant eat if the plate is over filled, fair puts her off her apetite. And as for Fish 'n' Chips...why do they give you far to many chips? I'm forever binning them.

TheBigYin
[info]leg_iron wrote:
18th Jul, 2009 16:20 (UTC)
Re: Obesity
Fish and chips now come in a revolting plastic box. I think they feel the need to fill the bottom half of the box with chips so it doesn't look half empty.

As you say, far too many chips. And they never put enough salt on. I don't understand why they're so generous with the chips and then so mean with the cheapest part - the salt.

Fortunately I always ahave a good supply of salt in the house.
(Anonymous) wrote:
18th Jul, 2009 09:26 (UTC)
It is all quite simple
Input = Output = Stasis = Balance


Input> Output = Weight Gain

Input< Output = Weight Loss

Input< Increased Output = Increased Weight Loss

Increased Output = Exercise


Do eat less and exercise.


The Army still does fry ups.
(Anonymous) wrote:
18th Jul, 2009 11:28 (UTC)
I've noticed that there are a lot of fat kids these days. Funnily enough they have fat parents.

I have a slight problem with food. I always clear my plate, even when I'm full. I think it stems from childhood when I was always hungry, there just wasn't enough food to go round. That's what happens when your parents liked the drink too much. I'm not fat, just a slight pot belly, pretty good shape for a guy hurtling towards 40.

If people want to be fat, let them. As long as they don't mind being laughed at in the street or being mistaken for American tourists!

Rab C. Nesbitt
[info]leg_iron wrote:
18th Jul, 2009 16:46 (UTC)
Beware - any deviation from a six-pack can be called obese now!

I went through a patch where I didn't know when the next meal was coming from so it was 'eat all you can, there might not be any more for a while'. That, in itself, won't make you fat. Doing it every day probably will, unless you routinely do a lot of strenuous stuff.
(Anonymous) wrote:
18th Jul, 2009 12:05 (UTC)
It seems to me that the problem is not so much an occasional bit of over-eating, but regularly doing it to excess. There is a world of difference between being a few pounds overweight, and the grossly fat people we see waddling about these days.

They all try and justify their enormous waistlines by claiming "It's in me genes" - jeans more like, or "I've got big bones". NO, it's because you keep stuffing yourself, and sitting in front of the TV all day....

My father likes to quote the old saying "No fat people ever came out of Belsen"

microdave
(Anonymous) wrote:
18th Jul, 2009 15:25 (UTC)
A lot of it is the sedentary lifestyle too - how many people are office workers? How many people's hobbies are inactive things, like PC games and watching TV (and, yes, blogging!)?

JuliaM (http://thylacosmilus.blogspot.com/)
[info]leg_iron wrote:
18th Jul, 2009 16:53 (UTC)
True, behind many a lithe and active Warcraft character hides a protoplasmic blob with an extra-strong chair. I've never understood the appeal of the game myself but I know a couple of those blobs, and one on his way to blobbiness.

Most jobs involve sitting at computers to some extent these days. Many jobs involve nothing else. Then the commute to and from work because few people live close enough to their work to walk there any more, then the mesmerising influence of the mind-sapping goggle box... many people must spend almost all day, every day, just sitting in different chairs.

I wonder how many don't even realise that?
(Anonymous) wrote:
18th Jul, 2009 16:09 (UTC)
Obesity Explained
OK. I am NOT fat. I am quite slim (size 10)...

What I have found is, that portions from takeaways are massive. I just can't eat a whole big mac..it's very embarrassing for me when I find that a "Happy Meal" has sufficient food in it to satisfy me.

Even at restaurants, (if possible) I have to ask for a doggy bag, which is OK if it's Chinese or Indian but not OK if it's steak and chips.

What I think is, that all food outlets should do an optional "smaller" portion for those people that either want to diet or for people like me who simply find it impossible to consume the amount of material that has been piled on my plate.

Simple... no need to diet, smaller portions are all that is necessary!

Sue
http://muffledvociferation.blogspot.com/
[info]leg_iron wrote:
18th Jul, 2009 16:57 (UTC)
Re: Obesity Explained
I once asked a staff canteen about that - could they do half portions (at half price) for those of us who don't want a massive mound to dig through?

The answer was, of course, 'No. It would complicate things for the serving staff'.

The serving staff were capable of speech and rational thought. They weren't zombies. I'm sure they could have coped with two portion sizes.

I suspect it was the manager who couldn't have coped. Managers like standardisation because it means they don't have to think too hard.

The trouble is, the people eating the stuff aren't standardised. Labour are working on that one...
(Anonymous) wrote:
19th Jul, 2009 00:25 (UTC)
Re: Obesity Explained
Re the portion sizes in restaurants you have to follow the money. If you're serving a half sized portion people get narky if you charge more than half, (despite the fact that factoring in staff, heating, etc costs mean that the meal costs the restaurant more than half). Therefore you get less profit from each person who visits and since they will usually be eating with at least one person who eats a whole meal there is no turnover advantage either. Few people object to having a full sized meal so much that they won't go out so you loose very little business.

It's not a lack of brains on anyone's part, it just doesn't make sense to run a business making less money than you can.

Falco
(Anonymous) wrote:
20th Jul, 2009 18:03 (UTC)
Apparently it's all God's fault:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1200908/This-God-created-Worlds-fattest-boy-9-mother-wont-let-diet-despite-health-warnings.html

microdave
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