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End of the Autoriders.

  • 14th Jan, 2009 at 6:43 PM
legiron2
I finally ran out of my foreign tobacco supply, so no more Autoriders of Sanity for the time being. I have to buy the taxed stuff again.

On the first one I bought was one of those pictures that are supposed to terrify us into stopping smoking. This one shows a pair of eighty-year-old hands with the slogan 'Smoking causes ageing of the skin'.

Interesting. I was under the impression that ageing was the main cause of ageing of the skin. A close look at that photo reveals, as with the teeth photo, no evidence at all of nicotine staining. And yet we are to believe that these old hands belong to someone relatively young, who has smoked so much their fingers have shrivelled. My hands don't look like that, even though there are yellow patches where I hold my roll-up, and I'm not young. The pictured hands are those of someone old, with nothing to demonstrate any smoking effect at all.

It's far too easy to debunk these photos. It's as if they're not really trying. Almost as if they don't want us to stop paying all that terrible tax. Almost as if ASH have realised that, should we all give up smoking, they'd have nobody left to torment and they'd all be out of a job.

Oh, but that couldn't be true, could it?
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[info]dick_puddlecote wrote:
14th Jan, 2009 23:10 (UTC)
Getting Autoriders soon
I'm going to stock up on the Autoriders in a couple of weeks. Looking forward to it.

ASH can't push too hard, as like you say, their income from the Government requires there to be smokers to harass.

They just push enough to provide a steady stream of quitters for their nicotine-peddling pharma friends. If everyone gave up tomorrow, ASH would die and so would the entire NRT industry.

They're not daft, they certainly don't want THAT.
(Anonymous) wrote:
14th Jan, 2009 23:34 (UTC)
ASH
My guess is that Sandford and Arnott have enough contacts at the DoH and government to easily get another job. Lets face it they are good at what they do, especially lying and convincing a guilible public and government.

DaveA
(Anonymous) wrote:
14th Jan, 2009 23:37 (UTC)
NHS teeth
I cannot help thinking, that the NHS are responsible for them teeth. How many people, smokers or not, cannot afford the price of a dentist nowadays? Or have a phobia, like myself, I went all the way to Hungary to get my teeth fixed (gas and air) with the injections. I met up with people from the USA also. I would bet, no-one knows of anyone with teeth like that. It all helps with the blatant propaganda, the antis are too up their own arses to see it.
Cheaper ciggies in Brussels though Leg-Iron - It would be great if you could make it.

http://www.antiprohibition.org/ticap_pages.php?q=6
1st World Conference Against Prohibition: "Smoking Bans and Lies"
Brussels, at the European Parliament Building, 27/28 January, 2009

mandyv freedom2choose.info for smokers and non-smokers alike, fighting for choice and TRUTH
[info]leg_iron wrote:
15th Jan, 2009 23:15 (UTC)
Re: NHS teeth
The teeth are a particularly interesting one. No nicotine stains, and on closer inspection, they aren't even adult teeth.

That photo would be better used in a campaign for NHS dentistry. We used to have those, in my youth. Now you have to fork out a fortune if your teeth hurt or get a good set of pliers and a bottle of whisky.
(Anonymous) wrote:
15th Jan, 2009 05:06 (UTC)
My current cigarette packet shows a droopy fag with the slogan " smoking may ( MAY ) reduce the blood flow and causes impotence"
Pathetic.
Notice the steady drip feed of propagabda that smokers are the worst litterers? Using up scarce council resources to clean up our filth ? A Telegraph article the other day ran a headline blaming Macdonalds for 30% of all take-away food wrapping litter.
Included in the article was the blithe statement that food packaging litter came second only to cigarette butts.
Really, does the evidence of my eyes on the High St. early on a Sunday morning support that ? I think not.
[info]leg_iron wrote:
15th Jan, 2009 23:16 (UTC)
Clever use of numbers, I suspect. Count the number of cigarette ends and compare to the number of polystyrene boxes - ignore the fact that one is very obvious and resistant to decay, while the other isn't.

[info]johnpickworth wrote:
15th Jan, 2009 06:50 (UTC)
Have you seen the pictures of the Lungs yet?

They have a smoker's lung neatly laid out on a slab next to a healthy one. Okay, fine so far... but then you begin to wonder what killed the former owner of the healthy lungs?

Speaking of cheap cigarettes...

In Malaysia, a packet of 20 Marlboro Red costs just 50p (or they did before Brown's devaluation of the Pound). And, they are twice as strong too. 20mg Tar / 1.5mg Nicotine, as opposed to 10mg Tar / 0.8mg Nicotine for the European restricted safer alternative.

I'm sure most people aren't aware how weakened our cigarettes have become over the years? Fair enough, its supposed to be a health thing but crikey, we pay enough and we end up with a watered down product.
[info]leg_iron wrote:
15th Jan, 2009 23:17 (UTC)
I haven't seen the lungs yet. Are they really still using that? We laughed at that one in school, before I'd even started smoking.
[info]leg_iron wrote:
15th Jan, 2009 23:19 (UTC)
Weakening cigarettes is good business. Ever tried to cut down by buying weaker ones? You smoke more of them than you did of the stronger variety.

Cut down the strength, keep the price the same, and watch the profits rise.
(Anonymous) wrote:
18th Jan, 2009 22:43 (UTC)
The so called Black lungs
Leg-iron, I heard the manchester radio last night, Rich was on there and he was talking about the black lung. The last time this sort of thing was tried, wasn't it a pigs lung they used? If it was, how strange, when they would have had so many dead smokers lungs to have took pictures of. But lies have to be covered up somehow. This is his site I believe - http://www.smokescreens.org/chapter1.htmThe Black Lung Myth

A common idea, amongst smokers and non-smokers alike, is that smoking causes tar deposits in the lungs. These tar deposits supposedly build up and cause the lungs to turn black, and it is believed that these tars lead to lung cancer,[1] and Cancer Research UK says of tar “a sticky black residue made up of thousands of chemicals that stays in the smoker’s lungs and causes cancer.” However, it does not take much logical thought, and science, to realise this not only isn’t true, but can’t be true. The idea that smoking causes black lungs is no more than a myth, and the evidence for this is plentiful.

(Anonymous) wrote:
24th Jan, 2009 17:47 (UTC)
Head Cancer
Have you seen the one showing throat cancer? Even the NHS would deal with it before it got to the stage depicted. Soon smoking will be blamed for causing rape, the financial crisis and the loss of the treasure of the Sierra Madre.
(Anonymous) wrote:
2nd Feb, 2009 12:26 (UTC)
Yep, www.smokescreens.org is my site and my chapter on black lungs is available to read. It is indeed a myth - i believe pigs lungs have been used, and the 1969 black lungs photos were pulled because they were using coal miners lungs. As i said on the radio, the photos we see are the outside of the lungs - where the smoke would never reach. If our lungs truly looked like that we would be dead of asphyxiation very shortly!
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